Tuesday September 09, 2008 at 6:44

Wednesday September 03, 2008 at 20:17

Wednesday September 03, 2008 at 1:10

Friday August 29, 2008 at 4:12

(Ed. - This is a MySpace post from yet another passenger on United Flight 158.)

So as some of you may of heard already, my plane almost went done on the red eye home from California Friday night. 15 minutes into our flight the our engine blew up and the cabin filled with smoked. The lights barely stayed .. flickering and sirens screeched in my ears. It felt like the plane was skidding. For what seemed like forever but only was about 10 minutes, I honestly thought that was it- I was going to die in a plane crash. The woman next to me continually told me that I must take Jesus into my heart because if we crash we are going to die and the Lord is the only free ticket out….She began praying with others near her and singing gospel music to calm herself. A baby was screaming and the view of those near the wing was a ball of fire then a 20foot orange flame (so big that it was all they saw looking out their window) My mind was blank and all I could repeat was that I was scared. It’s a feeling I had never experienced and still is giving me the chills.

Obviously we were able to land, cause I am still alive. The pilots turned around and coasted back in on one engine into San Francisco. United now has cause all 240 passengers a lot of anxiety and grief and have giving us the option of $100 or 20% off our next ticket. Which I imagine NONE of us will fly with them again! We weren’t able to get a flight home until Sunday, so moooore money was spent on hotels and cab rides. But United doesn’t care. From the moment I stepped in their line to check in on our way out there, they were understaffed and sloppy. It was one thing after another with their service, so this just topped it. I will NEVER fly with them again. If you search my flight you will find articles, mostly the same. They obviously make it sound like no big deal and didn’t get a description from anyone that was on the flight. They sugar coated it and lied!

— Another passenger, via MySpace, via The Latest Slub

Friday August 29, 2008 at 3:04

(Ed. - This is a letter I was forwarded from another passenger on United Flight 158.)

Dear Sirs:

I am an irate passenger from United flight 0158 on August 22 which left from San Francisco to Chicago around 11:30 PM. A few minutes into this flight an engine blew up and the cabin filled with smoke. The engine failure is not my immediate concern, it’s the way we were treated during this event. I am seeking compensation in at least the form of an appropriate apology. The only weak apology we received was after waiting at least an hour after we de-boarded, we were told “ We apologize for this inconvenience. We do have another plane available but the pilot will not fly it (totally understandable). There are no hotel rooms available and you can pick up your luggage and go home or try to book another flight”. We were given no instructions on how to proceed. Hundreds of people were standing in line and around to talk with the 2 available United staff members and all of us were extremely upset after what we all thought was a near death experience.

The event which started this frustrating experience began with an explosion which caused a fire ball in the left engine bringing it to an abrupt and plane shaking stop over a period of several seconds, causing the plane to slow and begin sinking. Knowing these planes are built to fly without one engine, we felt like we may survive this event until the cabin began filling with smoke. With alarms sounding and it being difficult to see and breath, many passengers began crying and praying. After what seemed like an eternity, but at least several minutes, the captain finally announced that we had lost an engine and we were in no immediate danger and were going to return to San Francisco. The oxygen masks did not drop and with the smoke getting thicker, it was doubtful we could make it back to the airport. The only other communication from the pilot was to prepare for an emergency landing and we had no idea if we were going to evacuate on the field. Flight attendants gave no instructions and proceeded preparing themselves for whatever. The landing was very rough and the plane seemed difficult to stop. All of this left most of us deeply upset and many seemed to be in shock.

In this state of mind, people were given no assistance or further instructions at the gate and only after hundreds of us waiting to talk to someone about making future flight arrangements, we were told to call an 800 # to make our own arrangements. The # we were given was and automated system which took at least 30 minutes to try and figure out how to get a person to talk with. We should have been given a # which would put us in a queue to talk with a person.

My personal experience with arranging my flight home was extremely frustrating. After several attempts with the 800# and over an hour later, I finally connected with a United reservation clerk who found me a flight at 6:30 AM the next morning on American Airlines. I was told I had to then call AA to get my seat assignments which I managed to do with AA in less than 5 minutes. While I was arranging a flight, my wife began trying to find a hotel which she found on the first call. Why we were told there were no hotel rooms available, I do not know but I would assume that United had no intentions of putting any of us up for the night. We did hear they made arrangements for the flight crew to be put up at the Hyatt for the night which gave us a clue that there were probably rooms near the airport available. We then picked up our luggage as we were told and decided we would stay at the airport until our new flight. At this time we were locked out of the main airport and had to spend the night sleeping in chairs outside the check in counters. We were first in line at 4:00 AM at the AA counter and were immediately told that the United clerk did make our reservations but did not transfer the ticket to AA and we were told to go back to United to get our tickets transferred. We then had to wait in line at United for 45 minutes to have them transfer the tickets which 2 agents did not know how to do. When they finally figured out what to do, we then had to go back to the AA counter and wait for almost another hour to check our luggage and get our boarding pass. Apparently no notations were made on our tickets indicating our previous flight was canceled due to engine failure and we were all marked as security risks and spent an additional 30 minutes being thoroughly screened and searched. We almost missed our 6:30 AM flight.

In conclusion, I have a few suggestions:

* Pilots or at least flight attendants should try to make time for more communication with passengers during a crisis situation. The long period between when the engine blew and we were finally told of the engine failure, left us all thinking we were doomed.
* United should bring someone in from management to help communicate and coordinate activity during an in-flight crisis. Airline management should be contacted during in-flight potential disasters and would have plenty of time to get someone on call to the airport to assist.
* Provide an 800# that will get you to a person who can help. I would much rather be put in a queue on hold than to try and work through prompts that will not get you the info you need.

I also have requests:

* I feel I deserve at least an apology from United management for the way we were treated after this flight ended.
* I feel United owes my wife and I some reasonable compensation for the time and effort to make our own arrangements, using our own cell phone hours, the time lost being misdirected about our new tickets and the torment, neglect and frustration from start to finish.

I hope to hear from someone within a day or two after receipt of this letter. I have used United Airlines in the past and my previous experiences have always been pleasant or at least reasonable. If the culture and service levels from United have indeed changed, and I hope not, then I think others in this country should begin hearing and understanding what they may be in for with the new United experience. I’m sure this is not the case and your immediate attention to this matter would be appreciated. I can be reached at home after 5:00 eastern time at XXX-XXX-XXXX or at work other times M-F at XXX-XXX-XXXX xXXXX and my email address is XXX@XXX.net

— Letter from another person on United Flight 158 from San Francisco to Chicago. Name witheld until permission to publish it is explicitly granted.

Thursday August 28, 2008 at 19:05

Saturday August 23, 2008 at 18:32

I'm not sure I would fly United again, even if it was free.

Update: The AP has released a story on the flight. The SF Gate also covered it. Contradicting both stories, a customer service representative announced they would not be providing overnight accomodation, and it was not offered to me.

Update 2: Letters and comments from other passengers.

I am traveling to Birmingham, Alabama for my ten year high school reunion.

The initial leg, United 466, went through Denver. We taxied onto the runway, waited for ten minutes, then suffered an electrical failure. We were shuffled back to the terminal.

Naturally I would miss my connecting flight. The next available to Birmingham would leave in seven hours and go through Chicago. It was (doomed) flight 158 that I wrote about last night.

Had flight 158 not suffered a major engine failure and filled with smoke, I would have arrived ten hours late. Despite being wildly impressed by the crew’s professionalism, United Airline’s customer service was less than helpful. The first available flight (which, after two mechanical problems was looking like a risky endeavor) was for 10:30 am that morning, another ten hours away. It would arrive too late to make it to the reunion.*

Customer service announced that no hotel vouchers were available. In the interests of sanity and hygiene, I extended my stay in the city and scheduled a flight the following day.

I spent the next hour trying to wake friends in San Francisco. I bargained with a friendly shuttle driver, and arrived in San Francisco flustered and exhausted, twelve hours after I left. My bags had long since been shipped to Birmingham, so I borrowed some clothes and collapsed on a couch.

In the best of circumstances I’ve lost more than a day. For my trouble – 20% off my next flight or a $100 voucher.** I’m not sure I would fly United again, even if it was free.

* Had I accepted this proposal, I would have arrived twenty-one hours late, spending about 23 hours in the airport.

** Customer relations, the department tasked with dealing with circumstances like this, is closed on the weekends.

Saturday August 23, 2008 at 18:14

On behalf of all of us here at United, I want to express my sincere apologies for the experience you had on Flight 158 on August 22, 2008.

At United, we take pride in being a reliable part of your travel plans. Your satisfaction and business mean a great deal to me, I would like to invite you to visit the following website to select a token of our appreciation.

http://www.united.com/appreciation

Please have your flight information handy when you visit the site. Family members who traveled together using the same email address should access the site individually.

Thank you for your time. Your satisfaction is important to us and we look forward to serving you better in the near future.

Sincerely,

Keith Fisher
United Airlines
Customer Relations

Saturday August 23, 2008 at 5:00

On the ground - United Flight 158, San Francisco to Chicago

Update: The intitial Tweet, followup from United, followup about my trip, AP story, SFGate story.

Update 2: Letters and comments from other passengers.

After ten minutes in the air there was a boom. The windows to my left were instantly lit brightly orange. A man in his early thirties siting near the engine threw his arm back, dodging in fright. The plane shuddered.

I could see smoke in the beam of the reading lights.

My shoulders tensed up. I had no idea what was going on.

The flight attendants flew into motion, deftly manning stations.

Beeping alarms went off. Clear, undeniable, but not screeching. Cabin lights flickered, eerily reminiscent of the engine’s color but this time inside the plane.

A captain came over the radio, letting us know an engine was out, that there was no need for  alarm.

The crew prepped for an emergency landing. Don’t take your carry on items. Wait for instructions, don’t rush. A mother behind me had her young son breathe through a pillow to filter the smoke.

What followed was the shortest ten minutes of my life, all religion, sweaty palms, and honest appraisals. Other than the occasional demon on the wing, movies apparently portray this sort of thing accurately.

As we touched down firetrucks and emergency vehicles appeared across the runway. Nervous laughter washed over fear.

We were quickly moved off of the plane, confused, happy, exasperated. I called my mother. Partly because she was to pick me in Birmingham in the morning, partly because that seemed like the thing to do.

Captains strode out of the gate through the crowd, to rapturous applause. A woman wept with her hand over her mouth. We were all shaken.


Wednesday August 20, 2008 at 13:50

Monday August 18, 2008 at 21:47

Thursday August 14, 2008 at 5:10

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